I live in a very conservative small town with plenty of Trump lovers, one guy even has a sign in front of his house declaring he's a "Proud Trump Cult Member" yep! I've learned over the past 8 years that (for me) debating with them is futile and usually ends with them calling me a "Fucking Liberal". One time I was chatting with a woman about our local water problem (we are running out of water locally) and she was on board for most of the conversation, but when I suggested some environmental changes as well as leadership support that could help change it, she got her back up and said "I don't need this! Jesus will help me!" I said, well Jesus isn't helping you right now if you've been hauling water into your house with tanks you buy from the city. That was the end of that conversation. I've pretty much given up on the idea of conversing with the fascist right. However, in our local liberal group meetings we talk about how to win them over, in my opinion it's a waste of time.
Pete Buttigieg is much smarter than me, so it’s sad to see his continued commitment to his Fox « debates » despite there being no evidence to support his hypothesis that these appearances change minds. The average person isn’t convinced by facts. Viewers show up for the entertainment value of seeing their side win.
So pundits who participate in these so-called debates should be clear-eyed about their being used by the platform to enhance the other’s status and influence. Why this isn’t stunningly apparent is beyond me.
I live in a very conservative small town with plenty of Trump lovers, one guy even has a sign in front of his house declaring he's a "Proud Trump Cult Member" yep! I've learned over the past 8 years that (for me) debating with them is futile and usually ends with them calling me a "Fucking Liberal". One time I was chatting with a woman about our local water problem (we are running out of water locally) and she was on board for most of the conversation, but when I suggested some environmental changes as well as leadership support that could help change it, she got her back up and said "I don't need this! Jesus will help me!" I said, well Jesus isn't helping you right now if you've been hauling water into your house with tanks you buy from the city. That was the end of that conversation. I've pretty much given up on the idea of conversing with the fascist right. However, in our local liberal group meetings we talk about how to win them over, in my opinion it's a waste of time.
“a mutually beneficial cross-promotional relationship”
Perfect summation!
Thanks for this and the rest of it.
Pete Buttigieg is much smarter than me, so it’s sad to see his continued commitment to his Fox « debates » despite there being no evidence to support his hypothesis that these appearances change minds. The average person isn’t convinced by facts. Viewers show up for the entertainment value of seeing their side win.
So pundits who participate in these so-called debates should be clear-eyed about their being used by the platform to enhance the other’s status and influence. Why this isn’t stunningly apparent is beyond me.