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Rachel Baldes's avatar

This is so good at explaining the fundamentally flawed logic used as justification for actions that can't be justified! I sent it to relatives that don't find my arguments compelling. Thank you Noah!

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This is very good. I don't think it's entirely correct to describe China and the USA as 'ethnonationalist' in the same way that Israel is ethnonationalist. In both--and in many other countries--there is a dominant group, and then there is a strong political current which conceives of citizenship as adhering more authentically to one ethnicity, resulting in many poisonous aspects to the politics that end up damaging the rights and welfare of other ethnicities. But Israel is much more explicitly identified as a Jewish state. They have explicitly excluded some from citizenship for overtly ethnonationalist reasons, and this wholly determines what can happen in that state and to those people without major shifts.

Ideology plays a large role in the former states when it comes to membership--people are lured to embrace a certain conception of the nation. It's harmful to minorities. But those minorities can participate and hold public office. China persecutes minorities as resistant to this larger state ideology. They are insisting on a kind of ideological and society unity that they see Uyghurs as a threat to--in addition to their ethnocentrism. (I'm less sure about Myanmar.)

Maybe we need a different category for what the US, most of Europe, and China are? Or maybe what Israel is? There's a distinction though I don't articulate it well.

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