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CirceIYKYK's avatar

Great interview. I think the best way to frame arguments in an arguably out of control capitalist society is to base it on the financial cost of bad policies. What a great job this piece did of making it clear current policies ultimately will have negative impact on the economy. It's bleak that we can't just say this is bad for 50% and improvments can be made of our society but that is the current reality.

mermcoelho's avatar

Hi Noah- a couple of things. First, wow, I love this interview. You ask great questions and the answers are detailed and hopeful despite the bleak reality. Second, and I know this sounds naive, but where’s the love? I’ve been married for 32 years to a man I love. If I thought about it just in economic terms, I might not be. But because of love, we’ve made a balance that works. I totally get and agree that people shouldn’t stay in marriages that they’re unhappy and overworked in. Talking can work if other things are good in relationships. It’s not all economic. Third, as a middle school teacher, I’d love to see a version of this for teen readers of all genders so they have their eyes open.

Noah Berlatsky's avatar

Corinne talks about love a bit in the book!

Basically she says that love is really bad for making rational decisions! She points out that when people are in love they often get into relationships that might really not be what they want in a lot of respects.

One of the funnier (but telling!) points in the book is she suggests that maybe on the second or third date you really need to ask if the guy does his own laundry! or have at least some sort of conversation about housework.

fwiw, I've been married 25 years now (a bit more!) and I think love is something you sort of build as you go. emotional support and mutual care is important! but ideally it should mean you want your significant other to be happy and so want to help them out if they're doing too much of the upkeep.

mermcoelho's avatar

I would really like to see these sort of questions (laundry) as standard dating conversation. Love (or infatuation) isn’t a great place to make decisions from, as I can attest from personal experience. Hopefully, if people really do care for each other, they’ll be willing to make changes that benefit the partnership as a whole. Thanks again for this discussion.

Lucius's avatar

I like the concept of *not* leaning in. Maybe it's just that I'm a filthy, lazy millennial but I don't want my job to be the focus of my entire life. I'd rather be a human who has a job as opposed to a job who occasionally gets to be a human.

Corinne Low's avatar

Corinne here! I'm on substack :) I love this interview--huge thanks to Noah for the great questions!!

Noah Berlatsky's avatar

argh! I know you're on substack but didn't put a link in; duh. I will add that.

Karin's avatar

Great interview!