I mean in my opinion Biden and Garland were way too easy on Trump after the whole idk goddamn coup attempt? To complain that Biden didn't do even less is just being ridiculous. I'm not sure how he COULD have done much less than he has. Biden DIDN'T do much of anything to Trump. And the MAGA crowd have ran with the lack of accountability as a sign of either Trump's innocence of trying to stay in office illegally, because if someone had ACTUALLY lost the election and fomented an armed takeover of the Capitol they'd be arrested immediately.
I don't know what I expected to happen to Trump and his minions after January 6, but it was NOT the nothing that has. I never thought I'd see people literally threatening to kill members of the government and then be allowed to get in fucking their cars and go home.
Woulda been nice if Biden had REALLY given them something to complain about...And trashing GARLAND??? He was a BLESSING for the insurrectionists and traitors on the right. I REALLY hope that Biden replaces Garland in his next term, because the NEW AG is gonna make MAGA wish they still HAD useless Garland steering the DOJ
The partisanship of Democrats is clear and present. Still, Republican partisans amplify their partisan rancor due to their demographic deficiencies and financial donors, who don't feel obligated to support public goods or real sustainability. That makes Republican partisans drastically more energized than Democratic partisanship. Romney is a person of privilege and has some elitism attached to him. He can be respected for the times he spoke out against Trump but also should be called out for reinforcing false equivalencies and frames that only serve his own cognitive dissonance. His father saw the party turn to racial animus and Gilded Age shenanigans in the late 1960s, and now he is watching the culmination of that process.
I beg to differ a bit...The "partisanship" of Democrats isn't ACTUALLY partisanship. because it's not based SOLELY on antagonism for antagonisms' sake....Remember how the affordable care act was originally created by Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney and other RW think tanks? And how the moment it became associated with Obama republicans couldn't run away from it fast enough? And remember how House dems were poised to give House Republicans EVERYTHING they had asked for regarding immigration law? And how the moment the dems approved of it, the far right faction in the House spurned it?
I GUARANTEE you that if republicans produced a bill that was nominally acceptable to democrats (without going against our core principles) we would vote vote for it...And we HAVE...So there's nothing 'partisan' in standing up for your core principles and having lines that simply CANNOT be crossed. partisan is when you are unwilling to negotiate and compromise around the edges so to speak...So in terms of rank partisanship, only ONE party is doing that
no, it's definitely partisanship. Democrats are very much affected by partisanship! It's less toxic for various reasons (the main one being the program their embracing is less horrible), but for instance plenty of Democrats are defending Biden's Gaza policy basically because it's Biden's.
Partisanhip affects everyone, including for example the non partisan left (which is often pretty reflexively anti D.) It's just a huge part of politics for everyone (including me!) Best to just acknowledge it and try to be honest about when it may be affecting you.
Maybe its a problem of definitions or degrees on my part?...But point taken...Certainly there MUST be democrats that support the war on Gaza because Biden 'supports it' but none of the democrats I know do that. Like NONE...In fact its the ONE massive moral fail and political liability that we're ALL concerned about per November...I just think that for most democrats two things can be true at the same time...Biden's policy on Israel/Gaza is HORRENDOUS while we can also understand the GOOD things he's done and what's at stake if the OTHER guy wins. I doubt that democratic partisanship would EVER be so intense that we'd choose a 34 count convicted felon with 3 other cases pending (including possible espionage) to run as our candidate...In fact I'd say that all the predictable democratic infighting is evidence of the weakness of an OVERALL partisanship. Those of us to the left of the current democratic party are often and regularly at odds with our party...
So while there are definitely partisans IN the party (and more in leadership than in gen-pop) partisanship itself is less clearly defined on the left than the right
Romney condemned his fellow Republicans plenty in the McKay Coppins book “Romney: A Reckoning” so it’s really WTF.
Romney thinks Biden should do a Ford-Nixon dance? No. The problem is that Ford did pardon Nixon! Bush did pardon the Iran-Contra participants! We have never allowed our executive scandals to become punished before now. A massive mistake!
I’ll give Romney props for dissing Trump, then take away those same props for recommending Biden pardon Trump. Just shows that Romney speaks out of both sides of his mouth as is the Republican way.
I still think about how fucking smugly he made his 47% comment on that video and I know that he only seems like someone with an infinitesimal amount of credibility because of the complete clown show dumpster fire chuckle nuts we've had to watch get treated like serious people when the only thing serious about them is how fucked up they are. It's pretty demoralizing.
yeah. he's a bad person by most metrics. if you win against fascists it's often because a certain number of quite bad people do have lines they won't cross.
Pardon--maybe okay, on the condition Trump had to remove himself from politics entirely and his confession (part of any pardon) would be released to public.
While Trump might accept a pardon he would not have accepted the conditions (I don't imagine.)
But this should have been done in January of 2021, and if he refused the pardon, the prosecution of Donald Trump should have begun immediately thereafter,.
I mean in my opinion Biden and Garland were way too easy on Trump after the whole idk goddamn coup attempt? To complain that Biden didn't do even less is just being ridiculous. I'm not sure how he COULD have done much less than he has. Biden DIDN'T do much of anything to Trump. And the MAGA crowd have ran with the lack of accountability as a sign of either Trump's innocence of trying to stay in office illegally, because if someone had ACTUALLY lost the election and fomented an armed takeover of the Capitol they'd be arrested immediately.
I don't know what I expected to happen to Trump and his minions after January 6, but it was NOT the nothing that has. I never thought I'd see people literally threatening to kill members of the government and then be allowed to get in fucking their cars and go home.
Romney's literally arguing that Biden should make an unprecedented power grab and undermine the judiciary for *Trump*. It's nuts.
Anything that would never be reciprocated should never be granted.
Woulda been nice if Biden had REALLY given them something to complain about...And trashing GARLAND??? He was a BLESSING for the insurrectionists and traitors on the right. I REALLY hope that Biden replaces Garland in his next term, because the NEW AG is gonna make MAGA wish they still HAD useless Garland steering the DOJ
The partisanship of Democrats is clear and present. Still, Republican partisans amplify their partisan rancor due to their demographic deficiencies and financial donors, who don't feel obligated to support public goods or real sustainability. That makes Republican partisans drastically more energized than Democratic partisanship. Romney is a person of privilege and has some elitism attached to him. He can be respected for the times he spoke out against Trump but also should be called out for reinforcing false equivalencies and frames that only serve his own cognitive dissonance. His father saw the party turn to racial animus and Gilded Age shenanigans in the late 1960s, and now he is watching the culmination of that process.
I beg to differ a bit...The "partisanship" of Democrats isn't ACTUALLY partisanship. because it's not based SOLELY on antagonism for antagonisms' sake....Remember how the affordable care act was originally created by Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney and other RW think tanks? And how the moment it became associated with Obama republicans couldn't run away from it fast enough? And remember how House dems were poised to give House Republicans EVERYTHING they had asked for regarding immigration law? And how the moment the dems approved of it, the far right faction in the House spurned it?
I GUARANTEE you that if republicans produced a bill that was nominally acceptable to democrats (without going against our core principles) we would vote vote for it...And we HAVE...So there's nothing 'partisan' in standing up for your core principles and having lines that simply CANNOT be crossed. partisan is when you are unwilling to negotiate and compromise around the edges so to speak...So in terms of rank partisanship, only ONE party is doing that
no, it's definitely partisanship. Democrats are very much affected by partisanship! It's less toxic for various reasons (the main one being the program their embracing is less horrible), but for instance plenty of Democrats are defending Biden's Gaza policy basically because it's Biden's.
Partisanhip affects everyone, including for example the non partisan left (which is often pretty reflexively anti D.) It's just a huge part of politics for everyone (including me!) Best to just acknowledge it and try to be honest about when it may be affecting you.
Maybe its a problem of definitions or degrees on my part?...But point taken...Certainly there MUST be democrats that support the war on Gaza because Biden 'supports it' but none of the democrats I know do that. Like NONE...In fact its the ONE massive moral fail and political liability that we're ALL concerned about per November...I just think that for most democrats two things can be true at the same time...Biden's policy on Israel/Gaza is HORRENDOUS while we can also understand the GOOD things he's done and what's at stake if the OTHER guy wins. I doubt that democratic partisanship would EVER be so intense that we'd choose a 34 count convicted felon with 3 other cases pending (including possible espionage) to run as our candidate...In fact I'd say that all the predictable democratic infighting is evidence of the weakness of an OVERALL partisanship. Those of us to the left of the current democratic party are often and regularly at odds with our party...
So while there are definitely partisans IN the party (and more in leadership than in gen-pop) partisanship itself is less clearly defined on the left than the right
The pressures for Republicans to support Trump were captured in the line about why DeSantis endorsed him immediately after dropping out of the race: https://x.com/MarcACaputo/status/1749182735728394728
DeSantis endorsed Trump, heeding adviser who said: “It’s better to swallow the shit sandwich whole rather than chew it in small bites”
Mitt Romney has lost all credibility and should just stfu and sit down.
Romney is the personification of assclown.
Romney condemned his fellow Republicans plenty in the McKay Coppins book “Romney: A Reckoning” so it’s really WTF.
Romney thinks Biden should do a Ford-Nixon dance? No. The problem is that Ford did pardon Nixon! Bush did pardon the Iran-Contra participants! We have never allowed our executive scandals to become punished before now. A massive mistake!
I’ll give Romney props for dissing Trump, then take away those same props for recommending Biden pardon Trump. Just shows that Romney speaks out of both sides of his mouth as is the Republican way.
I still think about how fucking smugly he made his 47% comment on that video and I know that he only seems like someone with an infinitesimal amount of credibility because of the complete clown show dumpster fire chuckle nuts we've had to watch get treated like serious people when the only thing serious about them is how fucked up they are. It's pretty demoralizing.
yeah. he's a bad person by most metrics. if you win against fascists it's often because a certain number of quite bad people do have lines they won't cross.
Pardon--maybe okay, on the condition Trump had to remove himself from politics entirely and his confession (part of any pardon) would be released to public.
While Trump might accept a pardon he would not have accepted the conditions (I don't imagine.)
But this should have been done in January of 2021, and if he refused the pardon, the prosecution of Donald Trump should have begun immediately thereafter,.