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Terry O'Neill's avatar

Great insights, Noah, and a great discussion here. In 1996, when my daughter was five, we went with a couple of other families to see the live-action version of 101 Dalmatians. Cruella DeVil gets thrown into a vat of hot molasses, whereupon onlooking animals (raccoons, I think) laugh and hi-five each other. The audience laughed and cheered along. Crawling into my lap, my daughter whispered to me, “We’re laughing because she’s mean, right?” I hadn’t expected that, and was trying to formulate an answer when she added, “But if she was nice we wouldn’t be laughing. Right?” It was a Disney movie. She was five.

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"We want to believe that people—everyday people, normal people—don’t just decide they want to commit evil. There has to be a more understandable, less vindictive, explanation for American fascism."

One of the more memorable online arguments I got into a couple years ago had a bunch of (white) people saying I was no better than trump voters because I refused to buy into the economic anxiety bullshit and said that his voters chose to be fascists.

One of the constant refrains was some version of "People don't CHOOSE to be evil! They're not Saturday morning cartoon villains! Grow up!"

A lot of people blocked me when I pointed out that they absolutely did choose to be evil, as you can plainly see by their fucking actions, and that they were going to be a lot harder than cartoon villains to get rid of.

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